Dropping CC to Jonah as my reply is mostly not related to Kaidan.im. Hi!
Thank you for your detailed mail. Boris Pek - 19.08.19, 18:18:13 CEST: > >> Is there such a thing available in Debian? > > You may ask XMPP related questions in Debian XMPP Maintainers team > mailing list: https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/pkg-xmpp I was aware of this list, however thought that it was for development stuff only. > >> Kopete 17.08 does not do it. > > Yes, IIRC Kopete has support only for GnuPG and OTR. I found that very recent versions might support it, but those are not packaged in Debian yet. And I was not sure whether that would be really the case. > >> PSI is said to have OMEMO, but does not appear to have it in > >> Debian. > > Yes, unfortunately psi package in Debian is outdated and psi-plugins > package is not in official repos yet. This is in my TODO list, but > progress is slow... Ah, I see. Thank you. > > I now also tried psi-plus. And found I missed two things before: > > > > There is a OMEMO plugin and I can activate. > > > > Messages send are still not encrypted as I can see in dino.im > > > > There is supposed to be a OMEMO plugin symbol in toolbar in chat > > window but there is not, even tough it is supposed to be there > > according to settings window. > > > > I leave it at that for today. > > Current version of Psi+ OMEMO plugin in Debian supports all necessary > features: > * e2e encryption in private chats > * e2e encryption in group chats (all members of group chats should > have enabled OMEMO plugins in their XMPP clients) > * e2e encryption of files uploaded to XMPP server using HTTP Upload > Plugin > * etc. I see. > It is comprehensive tested with Gajim and Conversations. > > Please check: > > 1) Have you tried to restart application after enabling of OMEMO > plugin? Yes. > 2) Do you have OMEMO buttons on toolbars in chat windows? If > not you may enable them in Psi+ Options dialog in Toolbars section. Yes. And I now found them as well. Either they have not been there before or I just did not find them. I thought the lock symbol might be it, but it seems that this refers to the built-in encryption. I clicked on "Enable OMEMO" with a contact and according to dino-im it seems to work okay. > 3) In some rare cases you may face with broken databases. > Try to remove files: > ~/.local/share/psi+/profiles/default/omemo-*.sqlite > and restart Psi+. I did so before, as I thought I had uninstalled Psi+, but I kept it around. So maybe there was an issue with that, maybe not. > Also there is no global option to enable OMEMO encryption in all chats > of Psi+: you should explicitly enable encryption in each chat > manually. Yep, I see that now. > > dino.im works out of the box. > > > >> Only working (!) XMPP client I found in Debian so far is: dino.im > >> which is GTK based. > > Great! Martin (debacle) may be proud of his work! =) :) > > >> Gajim is supposed to be working, but gives a Python traceback on > >> activating OMEMO. Its also GTK based. > > It is strange. Last time I have used Gajim for testing of OMEMO plugin > in Psi+ it works fine. Except Gajim could not send OMEMO encrypted > files to server. But is was able to decrypt such files sent from > other XMPP clients! Well I could test it again, but as I prefer an Qt based client, I'd go with psi+ for now. If you like I give it another test and open a bug report in case it still gives a backtrace. > >> Apparently there more than a dozen XMPP clients for Linux, but > >> none of them works as nicely as Conversations.im on Android for > >> far. > > Conversations is not that perfect (it lucks support of some popular > features), but it is really convenient and simple in usage by regular > users, yes. Well, yes, that is what I meant. > >> One thing to try still would be KDE Telepathy, as I read somewhere > >> it > >> would do OMEMO. But it appears to be similarly outdated as Kopete. > > And after news like this one: > https://dot.kde.org/2019/02/20/kde-adding-matrix-its-im-framework > I do not believe that any noticeable amount of KDE developers will be > interested in development of XMPP client inside KDE project. > Hope I am wrong here. I look forward to newer releases of Konservation and Kopete in Debian. In my point of view there are some shortcomings regarding KDE/Qt based applications. One being chat applications and another being a decent music player. While Amarok is not fully ported to Qt 5, Elisa just is not there yet. > >> Then there is kaidan.im which is not packaged yet. > > I saw mentions of this project few times (in qxmpp related > discussions) but have not looked on program yet. > > As I see there is related team on Salsa: > https://salsa.debian.org/kaidan-team > > But I have no idea why these packages are not in Debian repos yet and > why its maintainers have decided to maintain these packages outside > of Debian XMPP Maintainers team. > > Probably Jonah may comment this. (CC-ing) He did so. And I reply there. All the best. -- Martin
