Diederik de Haas ha scritto: > On zaterdag 27 augustus 2016 22:49:00 CEST Luigi Toscano wrote: >> Nothing breaks for me, because I have all 5.6.x packages on hold. The fact >> that 3 or 4 different users on IRC (including a DD) had their plasma-desktop >> packages removed means that there is a conflict $somewhere. > > I was one of them and the problem was because I used plasma-discover (for the > first time) on my laptop to update packages instead of aptitude what I > normally > do. While it did update several packages, it removed several others like > plasma-desktop, plasma-workspace, sddm and a bunch of other critical packages > for KDE *without* informing me about it and thus completely broke my KDE > system. > The DD in question didn't pay proper intention and missed that the upgrade on > his system would remove sddm and others. > On my desktop PC, I have several packages that don't get upgraded with > 'aptitude safe-upgrade' precisely because it would brake things. > If I'd do 'aptitude full-upgrade' it would indeed remove a bunch of packages, > including plasma-desktop and thus I don't do that. > >>> I do think however it would be good to have all of plasma at same major >>> version at least. So I love to see these in the newer version as well. >> >> It's not a matter of good or bad, it's the same as Frameworks: maybe with >> some exceptions of "leaf" packages (like the icons for Frameworks), but the >> core packages should be available in the same version. > > And that's precisely what's now being enforced and thus 'aptitude safe- > upgrade' won't upgrade to these latest packages until all relevant packages > are at the same versions.
It's probably not this case, but in general safe-upgrade is not enough. In some cases you need to remove a package to proceed and safe-upgrade (if I read its documentation correctly (*)) does not do that. So the status is fine when it's full-upgrade-proof (aka apt dist-upgrade). (*) (Interesting enough I just discovered I don't have aptitude installed on the my systems; never used it since it was trying to remove most of my KDE programs few years ago). -- Luigi
