Am Freitag, 8. Juli 2016, 20:41:08 CEST schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > Hello Hillel. > > Am Freitag, 8. Juli 2016, 12:55:22 CEST schrieb Hillel Lubman: > > On Fri, 08 Jul 2016 16:38:15 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > Yep, further packages coming. Maxy started uploading Plasma 5.7. > > > > What about frameworks packages? They still appear to be stuck and not > > moving to testing. For example: > > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/baloo-kf5[1] > > > > Will testing users need to wait until next frameworks version? In general, > > when such hold up happens, what are Debian testing users recommended to > > do? > > Above page exactly specifies, why the package baloo-kf5 is not yet in > Debian. > > And if you follow the link there, you get even more detail: > > https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=baloo-kf5 > > https://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=baloo-kf5 > > According to this is has missing builds on several architectures. Of course > you may say, I don´t care, I only use AMD/Intel 64-Bit, but Debian as a > project cares. > > So… if you want to use testing, you either deal with that, help these builds > to complete by analysing and fixing whats failing there – in coordination > with the Qt/KDE team – or accept that for some packages it may take longer > than the usual minimum transition period. > > It is really that easy. > > For further reference see: > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting > > Specifically: > > How Debian Testing Works
Also important: https://wiki.debian.org/ DebianUnstable#What_are_some_best_practices_for_testing.2Fsid_users.3F Copied here: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- What are some best practices for testing/sid users? The most important thing is to keep in mind that you are participating in the development of Debian when you are tracking testing or unstable. This means that you should know your way around Linux, Debian and the Debian packaging system and that you should have an interest in tracking down and fixing bugs. There are a couple of things you can do in order to ease your life as a testing/sid user such as: Always be careful when you perform updates and check if the actions proposed by the package managing tools are in line with your wishes and expectations. (i.e. make sure that you do not remove a plethora of packages you need by blindly accepting the proposed action) Bearing this in mind, apt-get dist-upgrade to keep your system fully up- to-date, but if the proposed changes do look unreasonable, some of the simpler things that could help are: put packages on hold until the problem in the archive is resolved, use apt-get upgrade to avoid removals this time, simply wait until the archive has settled down to a more reasonable state before upgrading. Install the apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges packages in order to be made aware of grave bugs or important changes when you install new packages or during an upgrade. Consider subscribing to debian-devel-annou...@lists.debian.org (very low- traffic mailing list, 1 to 10 per month) to be notified on future technical changes or possible problems. Keep a good live CD/USB such as Debian Live around at all times so you can still work on the system even if it is not booting anymore. Automatically create daily, weekly and monthly backups in order to ensure that corrupted data is not a problem. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, -- Martin
