Hi

I've installed the packages and they seem to be running fine.

Thanks to the team for your effort. It's much appreciated.

br. Christian Surlykke

On Wednesday 16 November 2005 20:48, Christopher Martin wrote:
> [Please follow-up to debian-kde@lists.debian.org only. Thanks.]
> 
> 3.5 RC1 PACKAGES
> ================
> 
> The Debian Qt/KDE team has been hard at work, and would like to announce the 
> availability of packages for KDE 3.5 Release Candidate 1. These packages 
> have not been uploaded to the archive, not even experimental, but are 
> available from the pkg-kde alioth repository. They are still rough and 
> experimental, so don't use them unless you're willing to risk a broken 
> desktop. You can access the packages by adding the following lines to your 
> sources.list:
> 
> deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5-rc1 ./
> deb-src http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5-rc1 ./
> 
> Again, these packages are NOT fully tested; you should NOT use them unless 
> you are willing to shoulder considerable risk, as not only is the packaging 
> as fresh as wet paint, but this isn't even a final KDE release, and is 
> therefore buggier than usual.
> 
> I'd like to note that in addition to the usual team of packagers, Josh 
> Metzler contributed a great deal of quality work to the packaging of 
> several modules. Thanks!
> 
> HELP US HELP YOU
> ================
> 
> In making these packages available, we're giving users an opportunity to 
> help us prepare better packages for KDE 3.5.0. Since these packages are not 
> in the archive, you should not file official bugs concerning them. We ask 
> instead that problems be reported, in detailed messages, to 
> debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org (ask for a CC if you're not subscribed). Use 
> your judgment. Bugs that are fairly minor, and that are clearly not 
> packaging problems, should be directed to bugs.kde.org instead. Only 
> packaging problems, or really serious upstream issues that we really ought 
> to be aware of, should be reported to us at this stage. If in doubt, tell 
> us.
> 
> Also, many KDE programs are still missing manpages. If you'd like to help 
> the team, please write a page or two and send it in. You can also help by 
> going through the Bug Tracking System, and closing your old bugs that are 
> no longer relevant, or just cleaning up issues that you know are fixed.
> 
> NOT ALL MODULES AVAILABLE YET
> =============================
> 
> All fully group-maintained KDE modules are available. The remaining modules 
> are not yet ready, but no significant issues have yet been found running, 
> say, kmail from 3.4.2 with kdelibs 3.5-rc1. But beware that 
> incompatibilities are a possibility. This is the sort of thing we'd be 
> interested in learning about. We don't have a timeline on the availability 
> of the remaining modules; please don't harass the maintainers of those 
> modules, as they are certainly aware of the situation and will make 
> progress as their time permits.
> 
> OPTIMIZATIONS
> =============
> 
> The much sought performance-enhancing feature of GCC visibility 
> (-fvisibility) is NOT enabled, nor is likely to be enabled for a long time. 
> Bugs in GCC - bugs that may not be fixed until GCC 4.2.0, sadly - are 
> causing too many problems. Indeed, visibility support is no longer enabled 
> by default in KDE, as of a few days ago. There are a few distributions that 
> may persist in enabling this feature, but they are using toolchains that 
> are heavily patched.
> 
> THE ROAD AHEAD
> ==============
> 
> Unfortunately, a necessary change to Debian's GCC configuration [1], that 
> was just uploaded, breaks binary compatibility for many C++ libraries and 
> the applications that use them, forcing them to be renamed, as in, for 
> instance, libfoo7c2 --> libfoo7c2a. KDE is affected by this change. Once 
> the updated toolchain is in place for all architectures, and all libraries 
> that arts and kdelibs build-depend on are also transitioned (could be a 
> while...), then we will upload a transitioned KDE 3.4.3 to Sid (unstable). 
> KDE 3.5.0 will likely then move into experimental. Only once KDE 3.4.3 has 
> moved into Etch (testing), will KDE 3.5 be uploaded to unstable, however.
> 
> Of course, this plan is tentative, and will be adapted to circumstance, 
> consultations with the Release Team, etc. But this should give you some 
> idea of the road ahead for KDE packaging in Debian.
> 
> Enjoy the packages!
> 
> Christopher Martin
> (on behalf of the Debian Qt/KDE Team)
> 
> 1. http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/11/msg00080.html
> 


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