On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Sat, Oct 10, 1998 at 12:25:07PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > > > > I would prefer a new logo, too. We shouldn't draw it. > > > We should run a gimp contest. They produced the Gnome logo, and there are > > > artists as well as designer. They'll come up with a good, inspiring logo, > > > I'm sure. We should vote the winner. > > > > good idea. > > > > i *really* like the GNU & Penguin one. (see the default index.html on a > > new apache install if you don't know what i mean.) something based on > > that would be great. > > Well, I do not like it, and because I think this is important, I want to > give the most importnat reasons for me to dislike any GNU or penguin motive: > > * Debian should develop it's own identity. We are a strong enough entity to > be considered a parallel, but seperate movement from GNU and Linux. We owe > much to both, but still, we are not simply derivates, we are more, and we > should reflect that in our logo. It is "Debian GNU/Linux", not only > "GNU/Linux". The next point elaborates: > > * Debian does combine GNU and Linux sources, and embraces both. But this > is not what defines us. The logo should reflect Debian, not two core > software components we use for our purpose (to turn it into a joke, I want > to make the GNU carry the X logo, and the penguin to carry the apache logo, > and behind them Larry should raise his hands and praise them both ;) > > * Although the Hurd and Linux share some code, they are differently. As I'm > working on the Debian GNU/Hurd port, I find the analogy of the picture you > have in mind and "Debian GNU/Linux" at least a bit weak. Note: The picture > was drawn before we started with Debian GNU/Hurd. > > * Furthermore, we must be able to trademark the logo. A reference to an > existing logo would be more difficult to trademark. > > I consider the first point the most important one. If I would propose any > theme for the gimp contest, I would make it a condition that no reference to > the GNU logo or Linux logo must be made. This also increases creativity and > inspiration, in my honest opinion.
A bit of an AOL, but I agree. It is interesting that /. doesn't use the red penguin when referring to us - it has anothere icon. I'm not convinced by that one either, but Given that the debian project embraces more than just GNU/Linux, our logo should as well. Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
