Quoting Simon Josefsson (2026-03-01 17:17:40) > Jonas Smedegaard <[email protected]> writes: > > >> > If I make a Pure Blend for the narrow audience of danish-speaking > >> > people, and then call that blend "Debian for greatest people", I not > >> > only say something positive about danish people, but also implicitly > >> > something negative about spanish and australian people. > >> > > >> > Do you see the point now? > >> > >> Somewhat (thanks!), but wouldn't such an argument also argue for > >> canceling the entire concept of Debian Blends? Assuming then "Debian > >> Med" pisses of non-Med people. Or "Debian Junior" pisses of > >> non-Juniors. > > > > The point I was trying to make is that if I label danish as greatest, > > then I implicitly make it awkward for non-danes to claim that they are > > also-greatest. > > I'm with you here. > > > Translating to your case: You make it awkward for others to identify > > other uses of Debian as also-pure. > > > > I fail to see a similar need labeling non-medical Debian use as > > also-medical, or for non-junior Debian users to label themselves as > > also-junior. > > > > > >> What I fail to see is how the messaging about Debian Libre suggests it > >> is for "greater people", for your analogy to work. > > > > You want to label Debian-without-non-free-firmware as the pure one. > > > > But Debian-without-english-locale is also pure. > > > > And Debian-without-Qt and Debian-without-GTK are also pure. > > > > "Pure" is a broad term. "Junior" or "med" or "danish" or "GNOME" is not. > > I have not used the term "pure" to describe Debian Libre.
Sorry, that was a brain fart of mine. Of course I meant "Libre" there. > I agree it is not useful to label Debian Libre more pure than anything > else, if it leads to these concerns. Do you also agree it is not useful to label a single Debian Pure Blend more "Libre" that anything else? Because as I understand it, that is the very point that Gunnar was making and that I tried to examplify. [Debian Pure Blends details snipped - please tell if relevant for you] - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ * Sponsorship: https://ko-fi.com/drjones [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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