Quoting tho...@goirand.fr (2025-05-08 13:30:17)
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> On May 8, 2025 04:27, Jonas Smedegaard <jo...@jones.dk> wrote:
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> > What do you want those numbers to tell us? That there is nothing
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> > invasive about your experimental method and therefore no need to invent
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> > new acronyms because NMU is a perfectly fine descriptor, or that your
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> > method has show efficiency or that the victims (a.k.a. lucky targets of
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> > your merciful attention) were statistically happy with your coercion,
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> > or...?
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> 
> I found this paragraph very much out of line. Have you conaidered that maybe 
> the "victims" may in fact very much appreciate the help that is offered?
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> It is with this kind of very unwanted attitude that we keep harmful strong 
> package ownership in Debian.
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> I support Andreas work, and anyone attempting NMU, espcially considering this 
> hostile atmosphere maintained by a small minority of us.

Yes, I am quite aware of the appreciation from some maintainers of the
contributions made by Andreas - my criticism is another which goes
beyond appreciative maintainers.  I do believe that Andreas'
experiment *also* aims to go beyond appreciative maintainers, and that
is the very reason he e.g. puts a very long delay on those
experimental contributions.

If I understand you correctly, you are reading into my criticism of
Andreas that I am part of a minority in Debian that creates a hostile
atmosphere by refusing to collaborate.

That is not how I see myself nor my position towards Debian work.

I think there is a lot of confusion in this thread due to choice of
words more than intended meaning - from many sides, including mine.

I hope we can reach an understanding - either here in this thread or
perhaps in Brest.  If you simply want to condemn me based on what I have
uttered so far, then I find it quite sad.

 - Jonas

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