On Wed, 2024-12-04 at 15:30 -0800, Xiyue Deng wrote: > Andreas Tille <andr...@an3as.eu> writes: > > > Am Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:46:03PM +0500 schrieb Andrey Rakhmatullin: > > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:39:52AM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote: > > > > I have directed several RFS (Request For Sponsor) towards appropriate > > > > teams, > > > > when then exist. However, my personal experience is that the majority > > > > of RFS > > > > that come into Debian Mentors do not fit neatly into any existing team. > > > > > > Yeah. We have a lot of leaf applications and so on that can't have a team. > > > > To be precise, we have both: packages that may not fit neatly into any > > team, and many packages that align perfectly with existing teams, such > > as the scientific team, games team, multimedia team, phototools team, > > and others. I've moved many packages to these teams. Additionally, the > > software in question is written in a specific programming language, > > making it easier to find maintainers fluent in that language within the > > dedicated language team. These maintainers can help with issues, or, > > even better, the newcomer may contribute to resolving problems within > > the language-specific team. I don't want to suggest that current team > > members are eager for more work, but the potential for new, active team > > members might be compelling enough to take on the responsibility of > > sponsoring. > > > > Kind regards > > Andreas. > > > > -- > > https://fam-tille.de > > > > Having a team to maintain a group of related packages is supposed to > improve velocity and usually works well. However there is a chance that > a team may be understuffed, both temporarily and gradually. I have > recently become a DM, so technically if my RFS bugs have been sponsored > I can work autonomously on those packages. Unfortunately my RFS bug > list is still growing[1] as my team becomes relatively less active > recently. I totally understand as this is voluntary work and people > have their lives to attend to (I do), and I am grateful for all comments > and sponsoring from my team. On the other hand, seeing my packages > being removed from mentors.d.n because of no sponsorship after 20 weeks > is also discouraging. > > It would be great to have a group of DDs that are willing to regularly > check for RFS bugs / mentors.d.n and offer sponsorship, even for team > maintained packages. Some teams also maintain a team policy either on > wiki[2] or in a document in team repo, which can be a good guideline for > outside sponsors. > > Just my 2 cents. > > P.S. I would also like to take this chance to appreciate Phil Wyett's > automatic RFS checking that adds "confirmed" tag to RFS bugs that passed > the checks, which helps ensure a minimum quality of a prepared package > ready for sponsorship that can reduce the review rounds and potentially > save some time for potential sponsors. > > [1] > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=unstable;package=sponsorship-requests&submitter=manphiz%40gmail.com > [2] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianEmacsenTeam >
Xiyue, Many thanks for the kind words. I agree a Mentors Group of DD's would be great. We must find motivated individuals and this is the age old struggle for volunteer projects like Debian. I am hoping that contributors like yourself that have in real terms felt the benefits of mentors become DM's and DD's then allocate some of your contribution time to mentors on a weekly or monthly basis. This in turn I would hope over time add more contributors of all levels and we can maintain an active group connected to teams etc. that would serve Debian well. Ever hopeful. :-) Regards Phil -- Donations... Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Liberapay: https://liberapay.com/kathenas -- "I play the game for the game’s own sake" Arthur Conan Doyle - The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans -- Internet Relay Chat (IRC): kathenas Matrix: #kathenas:matrix.org Website: https://kathenas.org Wiki: https://wiki.kathenas.org Instagram: https://instagram.com/kathenasorg Threads: https://www.threads.net/@kathenasorg --
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