Hello, I discussed all this a few days ago by email with your leader Andreas Tille who advised me to post this here.
My goal is therefore to let you think about the question and then discuss it among yourselves... Only kernel 6.13 will support the new GPUs that will be released in early 2025, the new Intel CPUs, the same for a whole bunch of new hardware... To be satisfied with kernel 6.12 would in my opinion be a big strategic mistake jeopardizing compatibility with hardware new or old Debian users. Besides, kernel 6.12 is not yet officialized as LTS and if Debian slightly pushes back the release date of version 13 to adopt kernel 6.13, kernel.org will elect kernel 6.13 as LTS and not 6.12 !! As for the availability via backport of more recent kernels, this option is reserved for advanced users, so it is far from accessible to everyone !!! And backport takes several months after the release of a new edition of Debian to make new kernels available. On the other hand, the kernels offered in backport are not always very recent either, sometimes they are not even supported anymore on the security side... Regarding the choice of Init or SytemD, I believe it is up to the end user to choose whether he wants to keep the basic philosophy of Unix by choosing to use Init or if he prefers to use SystemD which is a product developed by a company owned by Read Hat, a giant in the commercial computer industry. Devuan offers users several init managers to choose from, this is what Debian should have offered since Debian 8 in 2015... you should never have argued about this and made the Debian project lose developers who preferred to stay true to their ideas and who had to create Devuan for that. Kind regards. Philippe Le jeu. 21 nov. 2024 à 21:24, Leandro Cunha <leandrocunha...@gmail.com> a écrit : > On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 1:57 PM phil995511 - <phil995...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > For the next release of Debian 13, I hope you will use the 6.13 kernel > which brings many essential revisions especially in terms of hardware > support (Rpi5, news AMD GPU, news Intel CPU, BTRFS performance and > fonctions, etc, etc). > > > > And above all, it would also be wonderful if you gave users the choice > to use InitD or SystemD, as we have the choice to use a Cinnamon or other > desktop instead of Gnome. This would certainly satisfy many users and would > also allow to bring together the developers and maintainers of Debian and > Devuan on the same project, which would be very positive for everyone in > terms of human resources and workload... > > > > Thank you for the time you dedicate to the Debian and derivatives > community !!! > > > > Best regards to you and your family and happy end of year holidays a > little early :) > > > > Philippe > > The release of stable versions is always done with the latest LTS > released in November/December of the previous year, as has been the > case with all versions so far, then 6.12 LTS and not 6.13 I believe as > Short Term Support (backports is possible after release date). > The option to offer another option besides systemd, any decision on > this would go through the technical committee and would have to have > very good arguments. But I believe that this would not even pass. > > -- > Cheers, > Leandro Cunha >
