On 05.09.24 11:36, Daniel Baumann wrote:
On 9/5/24 10:43, Marc Haber wrote:I don't see a problem with keeping ifupdown{2,-ng,} if none of those packages is part of the default install and we remove it from the beginner- and intermediate-level docs.right, me neither; but Lukas' argument was that introducing netplan is "unifying documentation" which there are better ways to get to that (one of which you just suggested too, thanks).
Me neither! My draft proposal that was shared in the beginning of this thread intents to keep ifupdown (maybe ifupdown-ng, once it's drop-in compatible) around. At least for a transitioning period. If we want to drop it from the base installation eventually or not is fine for me either way. But for the release where we switch our network stack, we should definitely keep it around, to give sysadmins some time to adopt to the new recommended tooling. C'mon, you stated yourself above that "unifying documentation" is an exaggeration. It is a visible example that leads to user confusion. In reality it's about unification of network configuration: I want to cleanup the the scattered networking landscape in Debian, using modern, maintained and tested tools. You can read-up on the more detailed reasoning in my [slides] from DebConf. -- Lukas [slides] https://people.ubuntu.com/~slyon/slides/debconf24/debian-networking.pdf
