On Friday, August 2, 2024 11:26:01 PM MST Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> I imagine that some in the silent crowd hesitate to chime in due to that
> lumping together the use of git and the use of Gitlab into an
> all-or-nothing choice.  I think you intended that reduction, for the
> purpose of simplifying the conversation. I don't think that
> simplification is helpfull, however.

I am one of the silent crowd who has followed this discussion.

I have three feelings.

1.  Debian workflows are too fractured.  The project would be better if we 
asked people to 
standardize around a single (or a small number) of workflows.  To do so, the 
workflow 
would need to be flexible enough to handle the wide range of technical needs of 
all the 
packages and upstream configurations.

2.  Standardizing around a single (or small number of) workflows will make some 
people 
unhappy.  But that is an acceptable price to pay because of the general benefit 
to the 
project *as long as the correct solution is adopted*.  Unity is more important 
than 
minority opinions on this particular issue.

3.  I do not yet have the wisdom to ascertain what the correct solution is.  
Until I do, I 
applaud those who attempt to push this discussion forward, and I follow it 
closely, but I 
haven’t commented.  I think adopting an incorrect mandated (or maybe even 
recommended) workflow is worse than the fractured status quo.

Number 3 is why I haven’t previously commented.  In regards to DEP-18, I don’t 
know if it is 
the correct way to go for many of the criticisms that have already been 
expressed.  But, if it 
isn’t DEP-18, I think it will eventually be something.  And, although this 
might not be a 
popular opinion among some, I think Debian should get to the point that there 
is one 
workflow (or a very small number of workflows) that all packages are expected 
to follow, 
both for packaging and for collaboration.

-- 
Soren Stoutner
so...@debian.org

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