On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 4:50 PM Paul van der Vlis <p...@vandervlis.nl>
wrote:

> Op 23-04-2022 om 16:10 schreef Andrey Rahmatullin:
> > On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 03:13:29PM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> >>> I see several possible options that the images team can choose from
> here.
> >>> However, several of these options could undermine the principles of
> Debian. We
> >>> don't want to make fundamental changes like that without the clear
> backing of
> >>> the wider project. That's why I'm writing this...
> >>
> >> I have an idea for an extra option:
> >>
> >> 6. Put the closed source firmware somewhere in the Debian images, but
> never
> >> install closed source firmware by default. "No" should be the default.
> > That's the option 3 more or less.
>
> Option 3 says to publish two sets of images.
> And it says nothing about defaults.
>
> ----
> 3. We could stop pretending that the non-free images are unofficial, and
> maybe move them alongside the normal free images so they're published
> together. This would make them easier to find for people that need them,
> but is likely to cause users to question why we still make any images
> without firmware if they're otherwise identical.
> ----
>
This is the option I like. As a user who needs the closed source binary
blobs they should be easier to find.


> >> to put "non-free" into sources.list should also be an non-default
> choice,
> >> even when you install closed source firmware.
> > No, that's a bad idea, which is one of the main reasons for the option 5.
>
> The idea is not to promote closed source firmware in any way. Have it
> available, but only for the people who really want it.
>
> Maybe it's also an idea to put the firmware in a seperate partition.
>
> With regards,
> Paul
>
> BTW: I sell Debian media like USB-sticks. I know about the problems
> people have to choose a medium-type etc.
>
>
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> https://vandervlis.nl
>
>

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