On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 10:43:40AM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 11:14:52AM +0100, Emanuele Rocca wrote: > > Having the option to opt-out firmware during the installation procedure > > seems reasonable to me, and I don't think anyone was suggesting > > otherwise. > > > > The situation we are in today is very different though: we build a > > Defective by Design image that fails to install Debian on lots of > > computers because it does not include the firmware most WiFi cards need > > to function. If we were to make a mistake and accidentally include such > > firmware, people would be able to use what we publish on www.debian.org > > under the large "Download" button to install Debian on their Thinkpads, > > and we would consider that a problem. That's insane. > > very well said, thank you! >
Yes, we have to embrace firmware blobs. No for accepting Binary Large OBjects, but for accepting hardware. When we are not customers of hardware that "needs" blobs, we are not in a position to negotiation about it. Regards Geert Stappers -- Silence is hard to parse
