Hi all, On 06-05-18 07:27, Paul Gevers wrote: >> But, anyway, thanks for your effort, but it obviously doesn't scale to >> have the central infrastructure team triage things. How easy would it >> be to have the CI automatically send an email to the maintainers of >> the rdependency and the dependency ? > > I have already created multiple personal scripts to parse excuses.yaml > and store state on regressions, so this is trivial. However, people have > voiced their concerns about auto creation of bugs. I estimate that a > plain email for now is acceptable. I think I'll ask about converting the > email to a bug I guess. I'll create a cronjob that does this soon, > putting myself in CC to follow the discussion as it would actually > reduce my work for now.
Please find a proposed text for such an e-mail below. Comments or improvements very welcome. Paul ============================================================= To: $trig...@packages.debian.org, $bro...@packages.debian.org CC: elb...@debian.org Subject: New version of $trigger breaks autopkgtest of $broken in testing Dear maintainers, [This e-mail is automatically sent.] As recently announced¹ Debian is now running autopkgtests in testing to check if migration of a new source package causes regressions. It does this with the binary packages of the new version of a source package from unstable. With the upload of version $ver of $trigger the autopkgtest of $broken started to fail in testing². This is currently delaying the migration of $trigger version ${ver}³. This e-mail is meant to trigger direct communication between the maintainers of the involved packages as one party has insight in what changed and the other party insight in what is being tested. After all, a regression in a reverse dependency can come due to one of the following reasons (of course not complete): * new bug in the candidate package (fix the package) * bug in the test case that only gets triggered due to the update (fix the reverse dependency, but see below) * out-of-date reference date in the test case that captures a former bug in the candidate package (fix the reverse dependency, but see below) * deprecation of functionality that is used in the reverse dependency and/or its test case (discussion needed) Unfortunately sometimes a regression is only intermittent. Ideally this should be fixed, but it may be OK to just have the autopkgtest retried (a link is available in the excuses³). There are cases where it is required to have multiple packages migrate together to have the test cases pass, e.g. when there was a bug in a regressing test case of a reverse dependency and that got fixed. In that case the test cases need to be triggered with both packages from unstable (reply to this e-mail and/or contact the ci-team⁴) or just wait until the aging time is over (if the fixed reverse dependency migrates before that time, the failed test can be retriggered³). Of course no system is perfect. In case a framework issue is suspected, don't hesitate to raise the issue via bts or to the ci-team⁴ (reply to me is also fine for initial cross-check). To avoid stepping on peoples toes, this e-mail is not automatically generating a bug in the bts, but it is highly recommended to forward this e-mail there (psuedo-header boilerplate below⁵⁶) in case it is clear which package should solve this regression. ¹ https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2018/05/msg00001.html ² https://ci.debian.net/packages/$b/$broken/testing/amd64/ ³ https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=$trigger ⁴ #debci on oftc or debian...@lists.debian.org ⁵ $trigger has an issue ============ Source: $trigger Version: $ver Severity: normal or higher Control: affects -1 src:$broken User: debian...@lists.debian.org Usertags: breaks ============ ⁶ $broken has an issue ============ Source: $broken Version: $ver_of_broken_that_ran Severity: normal or higher Control: affects -1 src:$trigger User: debian...@lists.debian.org Usertags: needs-update ============
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