On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 11:21:49PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > and the Debian Project promotes hardware that doesn't > require non-free firmware (because the Debian system by default needs no > extra drivers for that hardware). ... equally with the hardware that uses pre-flashed firmware.
> > I don't think so. Where are we prominently explaining the problem? > > Where are the links to the unencumbered hardware that people > > could/should be using instead? > > This rhetorical question suggests that it's not the place of the Debian > Project to promote specific hardware. I agree with that. > > On the other hand, we recognise, and can certainly draw attention to, > hardware that works with entirely free software; ... not counting the software installed outside the OS. > and we can refuse to lend our effort to any reduction of software > freedom for our users. "Freedom is slavery". > > Are *you* using non-free firmware? > > The machines sold by, for example, ThinkPenguin, work with the latest > Debian release, without non-free software. ... by using the firmware on the boards. > That distinction – there is hardware which works with entirely free > software, and we work to keep it so – is one of the most valuable things > the Debian Project does Oh yeah. > There are, of course, hardware vendors that expend a lot of effort in > opposition to that goal. E.g. by providing firmware updates and requiring the OS to load them. -- WBR, wRAR
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