On 24/02/2016 09:28, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2016, Simon McVittie wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 at 15:45:59 +0100, Carl Chenet wrote:
>>>   Description     : Script to backup your data from a Debian system to a 
>>> ftp space
>>
>> Backups via ftp? In 2016?
>>
>> I don't think Debian should be encouraging backups that don't have
>> integrity protection (authentication/signing), and preferably also
>> confidentiality protection (encryption) - if not at rest (e.g. duplicity
>> or obnam with a GPG key enabled), then at least in transit (anything
>> that uses SSH or TLS as its transport, e.g. duplicity, obnam, rdiff-backup,
>> rsync, or something that uses ftps:// if you must).
> 
> I would like to point out that this whole thread is mostly pointless since
> neiter Carl nor the ITP bug is in copy and that Carl (like most people
> filing ITP) is probably not reading debian-devel.
> 
> Carl, you might want to have a look at the debian-devel archives. Multiple
> persons commented on your ITP.

Thanks Raphaƫl for pointing me to the discussion, I could not check
debian-devel since yesterday.

To reply to all questions:

- First please Nikolau, spare me the "I don't believe Debian developers
blablabla", this try to patronize me is offending. Don't like the script
and you think it should not be in Debian or even exist? Fine, let's
discuss about it. But don't patronize people contributing on a regular
basis to Free Software, for Debian and lots of other projects. They have
reasons and use cases you obviously don't understand.

- yes, backup by ftp today. The major french webhosters (don't know for
the other countries) offer free FTP space for backups, and believe me,
small companies do not want to spend money on backups, they usually just
don't care about backups. In my use case, the FTP server is only
accessible from the lan of the webhoster. No ftps. And the script is in
production on about 20 servers. It makes the job.

- I'm really aware it is a simple script, but I was not aware that the
"simple is beautiful" motto was dead. 47 lines so? You want to refuse
any program with line numbers <= bigvalue? That's a weird argument.

- The script makes the job for me. It is simple, dead simple and suits a
usecase , my use case, and, moreover, it is a really early release.
Buggy? It's not perfect, It does not pretend to. But it will improve, as
any other free software project.

Regards,
-- 
Carl Chenet

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