Hello all. On Tue, Jan 05, 2016 at 01:23:06AM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 05.01.2016 um 01:17 schrieb Adam Borowski: > > On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 08:43:02PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> Am 04.01.2016 um 19:12 schrieb Eric Valette: > >>>> Remember that / and /usr don't have to reside on the same partition with > >>>> the usrmerge proposal: they only have to be both available > >>>> post-initramfs. The initramfs already takes care to mount /usr (for the > >>>> systemd case as initscripts needs updates for sysvinit as was said > >>>> elsewhere). So no repartitioning should be required on upgrades. > >>> As explained elsewhere in this thread, using initramfs is still not > >>> mandatory in debian > >> > >> an initramfs is not mandatory as long as you don't have /usr on a > >> separate partition. > >> No initramfs + split /usr is not supported and has been broken for a while. > > > > I guess you meant "with systemd". > > Nice try, but no. Those issues are not specific to systemd. >
Though systemd might be the only init system where developers are actually nice enough to actually give you the warning, while in sysvinit "with a big fat warning added"[1] has only come as far as being discussed but not yet implemented. Here's how another sysvinit maintainer summarized the situation[1]: "/usr as a separate partition *and* no initramfs to mount it early is [unfortunately] a really bad idea on jessie/sid, [...] (but warning the user of the problem is likely to be a good idea)." (Note: this was when jessie was testing and still not frozen.) Unfortunately I think this is one of the last times the sysvinit maintainers where heard from.... Ignorance really seems to be bliss. I wonder how long people on debian-devel can go on pretending like everything is fine with sysvinit while bullying others into doing the work to keep sysvinit on life-support via reluctant NMUs. One day you might wake up to find that those NMUs have stopped.... Regards, Andreas Henriksson [1]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=757083
