On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Geert Stappers <stapp...@stappers.nl> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:17:22PM +0200, Mathias Behrle wrote: >> * Neil Williams: " Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds" (Thu, 17 Sep 2015 >> 17:44:11 +0100): >> > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:20:21 +0100 Dominic Hargreaves wrote: >> > >> > There is a strong British tradition, exported to a range of other >> > countries, of engineers toiling away in garden sheds, inventing stuff - >> > be it cars, engines, radios, metalwork, carpentry ... anything someone >> > can produce which requires only heating, lighting, power and time. It's >> > quite natural that toiling away in your own little packaging world for >> > Debian would happen in a software shed - and in software, there's only >> > really one kind of shed, the bikeshed. >> >> Thanks, that explains the term quite well for people like me not being >> familiar >> at all with the meaning. I understand now, that the term sounds funny for >> people >> knowing that tradition, for me it was quite incomprehensible and not >> intuitive. >> Searching on the web revealed indeed 'bike sheds' as in 'Outdoor Portable >> Garage Shed'. I think other people could be in the same position and just not >> get the idea what the feature inside Debian shall mean. >> >> I think that a more general and descriptive name like the proposed >> "(Special|Developer|Custom) Package (Repository|Archive)" would be more >> helpful >> for quite a number of users, including me. > > > Recovering what was deleted from this thread: > > } > > >From the context I take it to be a new name for "PPA"s - in which > } > > >case thank you for working on this feature! > } > > } > ... and that's part of the reason to call them bikesheds - these aren't > } > a new name for PPAs or a version of PPAs for Debian. These are official > } > hacking space within the Debian project for packages which - for any > } > number of reasons - just aren't ready to leave the shed yet (or should > } > be put back into the shed to get out of the hair of those trying to > } > *actually do a release*). > } > > } > It looks like a shed, it sounds like a shed, it's a shed. > } > > } > There is no time or appetite for another round of bikeshedding and we > } > don't need more TLAs, please allow dak to get me a bikeshed soon! > } > please! > } > > > The thing we will learn, we have to learn, is that bikeshed, the noun, > nothing has to do with bikeshedding, the verb.
For those not familiar with the verb: http://bikeshed.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_Law_of_Triviality Personally I feel that the verb is intimately connected with the noun and love the parallels with what both of these will and do refer to in Debian. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
