> The update to the first Debian stable release running systemd will most
> probably be the most painful update Debian has ever had since switching
> to glibc (which was well before I started using Linux).

I highly doubt it.

> We would be wise to make the last non-systemd release an LTS one so that
> enterprise users can stay on that release until the systems these
> installations run are retired.

You're aware, right, that my primary background is with enterprise use,
and I've been doing large-site systems administration for twenty years?

systemd is a godsend with basically no downside for our enterprise use
cases.  I expect almost no problems across our entire environment, plus,
as a bonus, the opportunity to replace a bunch of homegrown hacks and
obscure approaches (such as all our lingering use of daemontools) with
something supportable, maintainable, and much better-documented.

Upgrading to systemd will be less painful than the sorts of things that we
have to do with every Debian upgrade.  Particularly PHP changes, which
always result in at least some heartburn.  It will also be much less
painful than the Apache 2.4 transition (which I'm also really looking
forward to, but which will involve way more work for us) and moving to
Puppet 3.x.  Compared to those, the minor bits of fiddling required to
make sure systemd works properly is noise.

-- 
Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>


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