On Fri, 9 May 2014, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > >> ii systemd 204-10 > > > >> ii systemd-sysv 204-10 > > > You can purge them. Install sysvinit-core at the same time. > > This is unconstructive advice.
No, it is not, for someone who wants systemd gone from their system. > The systemd binary package contains logind, > which is the de facto desktop seat manager for jessie and beyond, What *is* a “desktop seat manager”? I’d not want it on servers (and some coworkers are even running N-M on some of them…), and Linux desktops (and nōn-Linux ones) have not needed those until now either. So, I (still) question this change. > environment with seat management on your own systems; but advising people to > purge the systemd package from their systems is just wrong. No. > > Another mistake you likely did is that, after the initial > > installation, you did not add > > APT::Install-Recommends "0"; > > to /etc/apt/apt.conf, which is a must-have to be able to > > run Debian without something unwanted being run all the time. > > This is also unconstructive. This is unconstructive towards Recommends: package relationships but constructive towards people who want their Debian system working more cleanly and without unwanted software installed that is not even necessary for the software one does want to function. I’m not alone considering --install-recommends being the default as broken, even today. On Sat, 10 May 2014, Marc Haber wrote: > We definetely should have a -unstable-user mailing list. -user is Full ACK! And it should definitely target nōn-newbies. On Sat, 10 May 2014, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > Thus, interim, until we have a mechanism to ask what to do on > upgrades, maybe sysvinit/sysvinit-core should gain a (bogus) > dependency on systemd-shim? Eh, *no*! There is no need for systemd-shim on the vast majority of Debian systems *either*. (Although my systemd-must-die pak- kage conflicting with it is probably not right either – I’ll keep it for now though, until it’s something that is major blocking.) bye, //mirabilos -- Sometimes they [people] care too much: pretty printers [and syntax highligh- ting, d.A.] mechanically produce pretty output that accentuates irrelevant detail in the program, which is as sensible as putting all the prepositions in English text in bold font. -- Rob Pike in "Notes on Programming in C" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.10.1405121321390.25...@tglase.lan.tarent.de
