2013/7/19 Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org>: > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> writes: >> On 07/19/2013 02:55 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > >>> I believe the equivalent systemd package to the upstart package is the >>> systemd-sysv package, so 174 rather than 1604 is perhaps the better >>> number to use. > >> I'm not sure whether I can follow. I am using systemd on both my desktop >> and my laptop and neither of them has the systemd-sysv package installed >> which, AFAIK, is required for compatibility reasons only. > > I see no sign that installing systemd replaces init or takes over process > 1. All of the symlinks to do so are in the systemd-sysv package, and > that's the only package that conflicts with sysvinit and thereby removes > the other init system. Am I missing something? <checks> Ah, here we go: > > | systemd can be installed alongside sysvinit and will not change the > | behaviour of the system out of the box. This is intentional. To test > | systemd, add: > | > | init=/bin/systemd > | > | to the kernel command line and then rebooting, or install the > | systemd-sysv package. > > I didn't know about the init= method and was assuming the systemd-sysv > method. Anyway, my point is that I suspect the vast majority of the > systems with the systemd package installed are not actually using it as > process 1. > > The upstart package takes over process 1, so 100% of the systems with the > upstart package installed are using it as process 1. The same is true of > systemd-sysv, of course. > > I don't think there's a way to do a straight apples to apples comparison > on adoption based on the current popcon numbers. The number of people > running systemd is more than the install count of systemd-sysv, but less > (and I suspect much less) than the install count of systemd.
As the recommended way to install systemd is using init= and not installing systemd-sysv, maybe the popcon "vote" count is the correct metric? NB: "vote is the number of people who use this package regularly" According http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=upstart%2Csystemd&from_date=2013-06-06: systemd is "used regulardly" on about 1200 popcon submiters, upstart on about 600 (this is even less than 100 from 2013-07-04, but what happened!). Regards -- Mathieu Parent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFX5sbyeJzuOVkEXhQZYVgxYtrab-QUxmJP==b=uj0cfaqe...@mail.gmail.com
