On 28/05/13 12:25, Redalert Commander wrote: > 2013/5/28 Josselin Mouette <j...@debian.org>: >> And on desktop systems, nobody reads local email. We might want to think >> of a better notification system, but email is definitely not fit for >> that anymore. > > I don't think that is true at all. Personally, I use it to get the > reports from smartd, > from btrfs scrub cron jobs, other cron jobs, the changelogs for updated > packages > get mailed there, which I really like (happens only with certain packages).
The participants in this thread are debian-devel subscribers: the sort of people who know that Debian is a Unix system, know what a Unix system is, and have some idea of what a "btrfs scrub cron job", or indeed an MTA, means. That's a pretty limiting audience for an operating system. The Universal Operating System should also be usable by people who don't meet those criteria, and I think Joss is right to speak up on their behalf. I'm quite prepared to believe that *our* Unix systems - and in particular, servers and development machines - need an MTA, but my parents' laptops really shouldn't need one. Ideally, we can have a sensible default that is suitable for both experts and non-experts; but if we can't, then the non-experts should probably have priority. After all, the sort of people who read debian-devel know how to switch away from a default MTA that isn't suitable for us, but my parents don't even know that they *have* an MTA. (Actually, the only reasons *my* laptop needs a working sendmail these days are reportbug and bts, and until I got round to configuring Postfix, my sendmail was a shell script to ssh into my email server and submit the mail there. In some ways I'd rather just have syslog and remote SMTP+IMAP.) S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51a49d84.7060...@debian.org