On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 09:01:38PM +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > On 11/08/12 07:12, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > On 08/11/2012 05:53 AM, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > >> Declaring "one area -- one chosen tool" is declaring the monopoly in the > >> area. As with other monopolies, this often leads to "vendor" lock-in, > >> stagnation, stopping developing the standards. Have seen examples of all > >> that occasionally. > >> > > Exactly! And in this particular case, the "vendor" is RedHat, and > > the programs are systemd and udev. If we can have an alternative, > > using OpenRC and mdev, then I really welcome it! Choosing systemd > > just because it *seem* to look better *now*, knowing that we have > > a quite hostile upstream, *and* dismissing any other alternative, > > is a very dangerous bet which I don't think Debian should do. That > > is, I believe, the most important point of all this thread. > > > > Let's welcome OpenRC and see how it goes... This doesn't mean that > > we are choosing *now* what will be the *default* init system. Just > > that we are open to a new alternative. > > > > FYI, I just saw this: > > "Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case you > haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we can drop > that support entirely" - Lennart Poettering (lists.freedesktop.org)
Not good. Time to look a bit more seriously at mdev then? The Gentoo folks have mdev support; it works with OpenRC. However, it looks like there would be some regressions. It looks like at the moment, xserver-xorg can't get device info from mdev, so needs manual configuration, and you have to use dmsetup to create LVM device nodes. So it's not /yet/ a direct drop-in replacement for udev, but with a bit more work it could be. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `- GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120812195440.gl25...@codelibre.net
