> Maybe we could have an intermediate goal to patch any daemon to add an > option to not fork on start.
Yes, please. All the more so since it is effort well-spent, as it is likely to be useful not only for systemd and upstart, but also for whatever service management daemon comes next. (Note that I didn't say "init replacement", since there's no good reason why a service management deamon needs to run as pid 1 -- it could be launched from /etc/inittab just as well.) The runit community have been doing just for the last ten years or so. Since any self-respecting daemon already has a debug mode where it doesn't fork (possibly with other side-effects), it's usually a fairly trivial job. And upstreams tend to be sympathetic to such minimal changes that makes peoples' lives easier. -- Juliusz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877gyrhrfk....@pirx.pps.jussieu.fr