"John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell" <[email protected]> writes:
> I also fail to see how upstart or systemd add anything new while they > obscure or delete previous good work (by suggesting init(1) is to be > deleted). I would like to stop writing the same complex 50-line shell script with the same obscure and weird workarounds and strange conventions every time I package another piece of software that runs a daemon. Instead, I'd like to just say "run this daemon with these arguments" and dispense with all the obnoxious boilerplate. Similarly, I'd like to stop having to install replacement versions of init scripts provided by other Debian packages until the bug fixes propagate into a stable release when people try to fix issues with the boilerplate and get the complex and strange interactions slightly wrong. I would like to be able to manage daemons and restart them automatically using something that's clean and well-integrated with the system, instead of exploring yet another way to wedge daemontools or runit sideways into my systems. Furthermore, I'd like other Debian users to have the benefit of such a system without having to know about obscure add-ons like daemontools and runit. And, at a lesser priority but still, I think, a gain, I would also like to stop being different than Ubuntu. It impedes sharing work with colleagues who are working on the same basic problems. All of these desires except the last are satisfied by either upstart or systemd. -- Russ Allbery ([email protected]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]

