On 11-05-26 at 04:46pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 12:45:41AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > On 11-05-26 at 02:20pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:52:38PM -0400, Mackenzie Morgan wrote:
> > > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Benjamin Drung <bdr...@debian.org> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Recommends or Suggests:
> > > > > cdbs
> > > > > cmake
> 
> > > > My reasoning on these two was that some people probably aren't 
> > > > interested in switching from cdbs to quilt, so coming across 
> > > > packages still using it will be common for a while.  CMake is a 
> > > > corollary to autoconf and heavily used in KDE-land, which seems 
> > > > like a not-insignificant number of packages.
> 
> > > But in both cases, those should be pulled in as build-depends, no?
> 
> > > To have them as dependencies of this package sounds to me like 
> > > you're recommending these tools for use.
> 
> > now this is getting interesting: This really is a debate on whether 
> > Debian should encourage or discourage development using CDBS and Qt?
> 
> Qt != cmake.  You can use Qt without incurring the NIH limitations of 
> cmake.

Ok.  Thanks for educating me :-)


> This is also not really a discussion of whether Debian encourages or 
> discourages anything, only of whether the maintainers of this proposed 
> package will encourage or discourage something.

Point taken!


> their recommendation is to use cdbs, I don't think it makes sense for 
> such a package to depend on debhelper directly.

This is wrong, actually:  CDBS is usable also without debhelper.

(Yes, CDBS currently depends on debhelper, but only due as a design 
quirk regarding interoperability between CDBS and debhelper - whether 
used manually or via the CDBS-procided debhelper pattern, so not to be 
relied upon).


Kind regards,

 - Jonas

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