On 02/05/11 at 16:19 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum <lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net> writes: > > > [ Note that my position is based on the assumption that we have a share > > of DDs interested in rolling similar to the share of DDs interested in > > stable releases. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to know where we > > stand regarding this. ] > > I'm very dubious. To take one example, if Debian stopped making stable > releases, it would no longer be usable at work, which would mean that my > ability to work in Debian would substantially decrease and quite possibly > go away completely.
Except for the sake of argumentation, I don't think that anybody considers seriously that Debian would stop making stable releases. The question is whether we want to provide a rolling release in addition to our stable releases. > I realize that we're often not on the mailing lists jumping up and down > and advocating for our issues, in part because Debian works great for us > and not much needs to be changed, but please remember that there are a > *lot* of us using Debian on servers in large-scale production > environments. And stable is our world. It's EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. It is, > in many cases, the reason why we were able to sell Debian in the first > place; if it weren't for Debian's exceptionally good stable releases, we > would probably all be running Red Hat. > > I went on about this at some length at the last DebConf as part of the > enterprise track. I assume that when you write 'us' or 'we' here, you mean 'Debian users in large-scale production environments'. Again, I'm not diminishing the importance of stable releases. But I've always found it strange that, as a volunteer project, we are creating a product that is mainly used in professional environments. I think that the key information missing in this thread is simply: | Do DDs want to consider the possibility to create a 'rolling release' | product? It is clear from the discussion that there would be consequences. Some would be negative, some positive. I think that we have now a pretty good understanding of the possibilities and their consequences. The remaining problem is to count DDs heads in the two camps: - "Let's focus on stable releases. A rolling release should not be provided officially by Debian." - "Let's see what we can do about rolling, provided we find a way to do it without diminishing the quality of our stable releases." - Lucas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110503094135.ga15...@xanadu.blop.info
