On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 04:09:44PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.de> wrote: > > In ancient times debian was packaged the way that the administrator only > > installed the daemons that he needed. Today many daemons gets installed > > by dependencies and gets started without any need.
> > If you want to change debian to be ubuntu it would be the time to look > > for another distribution that can be used on servers. (unfortunately I > > do not know an alternative.) > > Actually "Ubuntu ships with no open ports on public interfaces" (by default). [~]# netstat -ap|grep avahi udp 0 0 *:mdns *:* 1622/avahi-daemon: udp 0 0 *:45282 *:* 1622/avahi-daemon: udp6 0 0 [::]:mdns [::]:* 1622/avahi-daemon: udp6 0 0 [::]:58036 [::]:* 1622/avahi-daemon: I admit I didn't notice this before, as I would never expect a _client_ system to have some crap listening by default. And it is world-reachable -- am I supposed to ensure the top s1kr3t address 2001:6a0:118:0:22cf:30ff:fec3:d4b7 never leaks out? (oops...) And why does it open this security hole? To make it slightly easier to configure link-local instant messages. Who exactly is going to need that these days? The times of local networks disconnected from the world are mostly over. You have some non-networked machines here and there, but if there's a network of some kind, it almost always is globally connected. These few places that do have airwalled networks definitely don't want to run link-local chat... So, any gain is infinitessimally small, and the risk is real. Even daemons coded by most security-minded people that have seen a lot of review do have exploitable holes once in a while, so I expect Avahi to fare no better. Like, for example, #614785. -- 1KB // Microsoft corollary to Hanlon's razor: // Never attribute to stupidity what can be // adequately explained by malice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110304194807.gb30...@angband.pl