On Sat January 15 2011 01:59:06 Julien BLACHE wrote: > insserv has issues, but it's still an improvement over the previous > situation and, unlike the other new init systems, it's actually > backward-compatible.
I have no objection to you using insserv. I object to people being tricked into using insserv. It tends to break complex systems and people should be warned about this danger rather than being told that insserv is recommended and then making a bad decision based on sysv-rc.postinst's faulty recommendation. insserv is also irreversible, and if you restore /etc from a backup without undocumented magic, insserv will destroy /etc again. That in my book seriously limits its compatibility. For servers which may only be rebooted once a year, a second saved in boot time is not worth the hassle, or even the mere risk of hassle, due to actual or potential damage from insserv. > KDE4 is crap, world+dog know that. Use GNOME, XFCE or whatever. If you > want KDE3 in Debian, then put your money where your mouth is and > come maintain it. That is well known. KDE 4 maintainers cannot keep up with the bug reports now and will be totally overwhelmed when Squeeze is released. That is not what people expect of Debian Stable. The problem is that KDE 4 has moved to take over the package namespace used by KDE 3.5. This is totally unnecessary. KDE 4 - the new package suite - can and should use new non-conflicting package names. KDE 4 packages should be able to co-exist alongside KDE 3.5, at minimum within the package namespace, and ideally also on the same workstation. Trinity has achieved both, but the upgrade from Lenny (including KDE 3.5) to Squeeze (with KDE 3.5 from Trinity) is confusing because of all the unnecessary package renaming. If the KDE 4 maintainers would leave the KDE 3.5 package namespace untouched, then it would be much easier for people to continue to use KDE 3.5 whether as Debian packages (preferred) or via external repositories such as Trinity. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101151051.43442.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
