hi, all >From point of software developer, people who use computer can be divided into >3 groups:
1. just user. They just want to use computer, not anything else. Maybe all the 4 groups mentioned by hans.ullrich can be put here. For those people, debian is obviously not the first/best choise. 2. normal software developer. This group includes 90% software developers and 90% commercial software companies. To reduce the development cost, they must limit the development time and limit the packages used in developping. For example, a lot of coders use only gtk/qt, nothing else. For those people, debian is also not the first/best choise. 3. advanced software developer. This is the only group who benefit from the rich of debian package. Unfortunately it is very few. regards, j ---------------------------------------- > From: hans.ullr...@loop.de > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The > number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:38:02 +0200 > > Hi community, > > well, I think, the main problem is, WHO are the persons, you want to > actiuvate. > > During my meanwhile 15 years activity in my it-job, I met mostly several main > groups of people: > > Group 1: people, who are not interested, whatever OS they are using, as long > as it is working. They do not care of costs or freedom. They never change > anything on their computers and they even do not know, what they are doing at > all. This is the biggest group. > > Group 2. Gamers - they use their computer just for games, and they do also not > care of the OS, as long as the games are running on their computers. Sadly > most of the games are running only in windows (sigh). > > Group 3: Systemadmins - Yes, there are a lot of sysadmins out there, who are > not able to see the difference between Linux and Windows server systems. IMO > these people will bring the most power into debian, if you can motivate them. > > Group 4: People, who decide in business, which OS to use. > > > There are some smaller groups, too, but let me just suggest, how these biggest > groups could be interested. > > Group 1 can be interested, either when there are Debian (and I mean really > Debian, not derivates like Ubuntu) preinstalled Computers available. These > should be easily configurable. A graphical interface (for example in the style > of webmin) is absolutely necessary. There are a lot of people outside, which > are NOT gamers, but like internet surfing, need office, e-mail and other > stuff. > > > Group 2 IMO can only be motivated, if it will be possible, to prove customers > and distributors, that a fine installed debian is running much faster than a > windows system. I imagine, that preconfigured "gaming images" or "-packages" > might help them. > > Group 3: I think, there can be nothing done, than to develop clickable > interfaces, as windows sysadmins are used to this style of administration. > Sorry, please be not angry, but 90 percent windows sysadmins I met in my life, > were lazy, did never read manuals and expected everything to be worked by a > mouse click (sigh!). > > Group 4: Business deciders are a big problem. They only see money! But I > think, if you want to convince them, then you need a web prensentation or a > presentation at all, who makes the idea of debian clear: save costs through > the work of a community , development will be guaranteed in the future, use of > real standards, more power for less money, no license problems and some other > things I forgot. For those people, a presentation should be developed by > people, who create professionell advertisements. > > > Well, those are IMO the biggest groups of computer users. I estimate all > together about 80 percent. If you can win only 1/3 of them, then it will be a > big step. > > But the question is: Is that really, what you want? > > > Best regards > > Hans-J. Ullrich > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007211938.02688.hans.ullr...@loop.de > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/col105-w63925dc6fd20f5162bbfcccf...@phx.gbl