On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 08:56:24PM +0200, George Danchev wrote: > On Wednesday 03 December 2008 20:35:11 Clint Adams wrote:
> > No, this is condescending and implies that the ftp-team knows more about > > package quality than the other developers, when that is not true and nor > > should it be true as a condition of holding that role. > [...] based on their experience. I believe they have seen a lot. Not to denigrate the experience of the ftp team, all of whom have been active contributors to Debian for a number of years, but it's nonsense to suggest they have experience that makes them *more* qualified than Clint to judge the quality of his own packages. - Clint has been a Debian developer since before 1999. (I don't know offhand how much before, since that's the cutoff for LDAP records.) - None of the ftp team actively involved in NEW processing joined Debian any earlier than 2002. - None of the ftp team actively involved in NEW processing were members of the ftp team prior to 2004. - None of the currently active ftp assistants have been in that role longer than 10 months. - Clint is a long-time maintainer of four packages of Priority: important or above, and an uploader on three others. None of the current members of the ftp team maintain any base packages. Again, I'm not arguing that the members of the ftp team are unqualified to judge package quality. Nor am I arguing that we need a seniority system for developers that gives more power to those who have been around the longest. But, *if* you believe that experience determines who should decide when packages are too buggy for inclusion in the archive, then the ftp team are the wrong people to be making those decisions. Which is why the ftp team should not be taking it upon themselves to overrule other developers' assessments of which bugs are critical to fix unless those overrulings are grounded in a clear consensus. If you have doubts about the quality of your own packages, feel free to get more experienced developers to review them for you before you upload. But don't put up obstacles to other developers getting work done by giving some other set of developers veto power based on external criteria that the project has never agreed to. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
