On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 07:16:00PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 04:16:33PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > >> On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 10:24:28PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> > Just like the kernel always did prior to udev. > >> > >> You're missing a very important thing. This is _NOT_ a "udev vs. > >> pre-udev" question. This is a "new kernel hotplug behavior vs. old > >> kernel hotplug behavior" question. The fact is that the kernel behavior > >> changed fundamentally in the early 2.6.x series compared to 2.4.x, and > >> userspace did not follow that change ever since. udev simply exposes how > >> the kernel really works. Not using udev solves NOTHING since it's not > >> udev that is broken: it is the general userspace assumption about how > >> the kernel works what is broken. > > > > This is pure crap. > > > > Install udev on my system -> things break randomly and unreproducibly, > > due to race conditions all over the place. > > > > Install hotplug on my system, and make sure udev is not installed -> > > things Just Work(TM). > > That is because udev is slower so the window of the race condition > gets increased many many times. Without udev you don't have to wait > for the mknod call to complete.
Which is a bad thing, why? > And for most hardware that actualy makes the race condition disapear. Exactly. So there. -- Fun will now commence -- Seven Of Nine, "Ashes to Ashes", stardate 53679.4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
