On 3/13/06, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ma, 2006-03-13 kello 08:57 +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst kirjoitti: > > I don't think it's useful to second-guess what they're doing, so my > > question to Nathanael: when did you post this question to them directly > > and what was their answer? > > Is there a reason why the question should be made in private? > > I do think N.N. formulated the question in a needlessly accusatory tone, > but I don't think -devel was the wrong place. Transparency and openness > are good for the project. >
I agree with you, but i don't think it's just a lack of transparency and openness, it's just the same old way to not communicate decisions in a proper way. If the ftpmasters are going to stop NEW processing for a while with or without a special criteria, they should inform us through d-d-a or the DPL if they think it will generate too much noise, like these threads. If they did that i'm yet to hear about. I want the archive split and i want etch, don't get me wrong but at the same time i see that we're discussing communication and conduct problems every week, it's clear that we're delaying things here. Unfortunately, we're going nowhere once again, there's only one side writing, people in the middle acting like lawyers and the others just don't talk. I'm not going to the debconf, but i would like to suggest that the folks that are listed in the debian's organizational structure page[0] meet up and organize a bof with others developers interested. I see that Steve will talk about release etch in time and Enrico about the debian community guidelines, maybe they've better ideas for this than me. You know, the basic idea is ftpmasters, listmasters and others that are going to Mexico, spend some minutes sitting there, being cool with each other and hear the feedback from others DDs and say what they think about some past and the current issues. Someone take notes and post the results somewhere. [0] = http://www.debian.org/intro/organization -- stratus
