Scripsit Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 12:55 -0400, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote:
>> While I agree the README can be confusing, I think we do a disservice >> to our upstream by not including it. > That's my gut feeling too. I don't think we should base gut feelings solely based on a filename. There is no real consensus in the free software community on what one should find in a file called README, so it would seem to be a fallacy to try to discuss README files in general. Or rather: the bits of information that *are* consensus components of README files are things that we already have other standard locations for in Debian packages, such as the package description, copyright file and dependency information. If upstream ships a README file with just these bits, there is no reason to include it in the .deb. On the other hand, it is not at all uncommon for upstream authors to include *additional* information in README files that goes beyond the "standard" metadata about the package. Most often this is things like a description of the background for why the software exists and an analysis of alternative solutions and/or the limits of the solution implemented in the package itself. In cases where this background information dominates the README file, I think it is reasonable to ship the entire file verbatim in the .deb even if it *also* contains a small amount if basic information that can be found elsewhere. In other cases README files contain rudimentary descriptions of how to use the software. This most often happens when the README is the *only* documentation shipped from upstream. In this case it is better to reformat the description as a man page -- and omit the README file itself if it is then completely redundant. In any case, I object to the notion that the name README signals "this is important information" to the user. In the tarball world (as well as in the .zip world of the DOS/Windows communities) a README is the closest thing to a package description; many users know this and do not expect to find vitally important information there. In the rare cases where the file does contain important information, it might be best to ship it under a _different_ name in the .deb, for example /usr/share/doc/foo/IMPORTANT. >> I think a better solution would be to duplicate all the important >> information about the software into the README.Debian and train users >> to read that soley. > Duplication should be avoided when possible. It's a lot of work. In some cases it is best to programmatically _move_ information from README to a more appropriate place in the .deb. For example, the upstream tarball for autotrace has a rather heterogenous README file that contains a bit of package description, some license information, a portability summary, informal "build-dependency" information, a short-short manpage summary, and a minimal example program that uses libautotrace. The latter item is the only one that is not redundant in the .deb, so I let debian/rules *cut out* the example program and ship it as /usr/share/doc/libautotrace-dev/examples/sample.c instead. > Why not just help improve upstream's README when you encounter poor > quality work? That's what you'd do with code, wouldn't you? Because there is no universal convention for what belongs to a README file, and the upstream author has a right to have different ideas about it than you. In particular, much information that would be redundant in /usr/share/doc/foo/README.gz would nevertheless *naturally* be part of the README in an upstream tarball. They have different, though overlapping, roles. > I don't think upstream's original, untainted README should be considered > sacrosanct, any more than any source code file in the same package. Agreed. > If it can be improved, patch it. Then send your patches upstream. Not necessarily. The requirements for a README in a .deb package are different from the ones for a README in a tarball. -- Henning Makholm "They want to be natural, the anti-social little beasts. They just don't realize that everyone's good depends on everyone's cooperation." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]