On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 11:04 +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> How could we know ? We know nothing about Ubuntu, nothing about > >> Canonical, nothing about the goals, nothing about how everything was > >> done to begin with, nothing about who works or doesn't work there. > > > > Details about Ubuntu and its goals can be found on the website. In many > > respects there is more information available about Ubuntu activity, and the > > goals of the project, than about organizations which provide you with the > > essentials of life. Yet, you seem to trust them by default, while you > > assume that Ubuntu seeks to cause you harm. Why? > > Because Ubuntu appeared behind a screen of smoke. And smoke hasn't > dissipated yet. Debian Developers were not informed in an appropriate > manner of what was going on there. > Hasn't dissipated yet?! Everything about Ubuntu is public, and available from http://www.ubuntu.com/ - right down to logs of the bi-weekly technical board and community council meetings.
> >> Everything was done with the exact same secret used for this plan. And > >> nobody cared enough to write up a proper announcement for Debian > >> developers. > > > > An announcement of what? The release meeting, or Ubuntu? You'd be wrong in > > either case, as can be easily shown by mailing list archives. > > Ubuntu. Sure, there was a mail posted to -devel. It basically said > "Hey folks, look there, we're doing something, there are patches. We > have no name yet.". It said nothing else. It did not even list the > people involved. We had to find out by hanging out on IRC. Nice way of > treating your fellows, indeed. > Your employers have never posted a list of Debian Developers they employ. Nor has anybody elses. It was left to individual employees to decide whether they wished to have their employment known or not. Scott -- Have you ever, ever felt like this? Had strange things happen? Are you going round the twist?
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