Thanks to Jari for confirming agreement with Peter Palfrader's summary, and for clarifying what is being requested. I don't think anything more needs to be said about this.
So I hereby formally propose the draft resolution below. I'll give other members of the TC a few days to weigh in (in particular, to suggest alternative ballot options if they want any), and then I will call for a vote. I've also slightly improved the rationale to take account of Jari's last message. Ian. -8<- (1) The REMAIL option should not be supplanted or supplemented by anything in an /etc/default file. The current behaviour of the mixmaster init script, to examine /etc/mixmaster/remailer.conf's REMAIL option, is correct. (2) Policy is clear and correct, and need not be changed. -8<- NB THIS IS A DRAFT BALLOT - THERE HAS NOT YET BEEN A CFV [ ] Choice K: Keep current behaviour and existing policy, as above. [ ] Choice F: Further discussion 1. As very helpfully summarised by Peter Palfrader, the current situation is as follows: o The mixmaster package provides both the client and server functionality. o By default the server part (running a remailer) is not enabled. o To configure mixmaster to run as a remailer the admin has to set a dozen options in /etc/mixmaster/remailer.conf. Options like email address, which formats they will accept, whether to run as an exit or only as a middleman remailer, etc. o One of those options is the REMAIL setting, which enables or disables the remailing ("server") part of mixmaster. o The init script has code to only try starting the mixmaster daemon, which is only needed when it's being run as a remailer, when the REMAIL option is actually set to "y" in that config file. 2. The submitter has requested that instead of checking /etc/mixmaster/remailer.conf for REMAIL being set to `y', the init script should read a new setting out of a file in /etc/default. 3. The submitter relies on this part of policy 9.3.2: Often there are some variables in the init.d scripts whose values control the behavior of the scripts, and which a system administrator is likely to want to change. As the scripts themselves are frequently conffiles, modifying them requires that the administrator merge in their changes each time the package is upgraded and the conffile changes. To ease the burden on the system administrator, such configurable values should not be placed directly in the script. Instead, they should be placed in a file in /etc/default, which typically will have the same base name as the init.d script. This extra file should be sourced by the script when the script runs. [...] 4. The committee's role is not to interpret policy; rather our role includes both determining the appropriate behaviour in a specific case and also to specify the appropriate policy wording. However, we should make our decisions based on the all of the available information, and existing policy documents are a useful input to that process. 5. The purpose of this section of policy is admirably and clearly stated by the policy itself. The intent is that an administrator who wishes to make a commonly-made change to the behaviour of an init script will be able to edit the file in /etc/default rather than the script itself. The point of this is that when the package maintainer improves the script (which happens often), the administrator only needs to do a trivial merge of the /etc/default file rather than to deal with a conffile prompt due to the changes to the script itself. 6. I agree with the policy as stated, and find the wording clear. There is little room for improvement. I wholeheartedly adopt the principles and rationale described in the policy text, as a good basis for the rest of my reasoning. 7. The present situation does not match that described in the policy. The setting in question, whether to run the daemon, is not recorded in the init.d script but rather in a different configuration file. There is no need to edit the init.d script to enable or disable the daemon. So the reasoning described in the policy does not apply directly. 8. But we should consider whether an analogous argument can be made. The reasoning in the policy text could apply to other configuration files which contain a good deal of complex text supplied by the package maintainer, and where certain changes might want to be made by many administrators. In those circumstances it would be useful to move those commonly-modified configuration options into a separate file for the same reasons as one wishes to movoe commonly-modified settings out of init.d scripts. 9. If that were the case then a file in /etc/default might be a good choice, depending on implementation language and other details. (For example, in my opinion files in /etc/default ought to be shell scripts as described in 9.3.2, and if for implementation reasons the new small configuration file wasn't a shell script then it ought not to be in /etc/default; also, not all such shell script configuration fragments ought to be in /etc/default as the package may well have a better place to put them.) 10. However, this is not the case here - the REMAIL configuration option which controls daemon startup is indeed in a configuration file along with other configuration variables, but many of those configuration variables also need to be modified by an administrator who wishes to change REMAIL. So there would be no benefit in moving the REMAIL option into a separate file. 11. Daemon startup can in any case be controlled by adjustment of the /etc/rc*.d links. These links which are provided specificially for the purpose of allowing the system administrator control over the operation of subsystems like this one. The submitter requests the following arrangement: /etc/default/* Daemon boot control setup /etc/<daemon>/<configs> Daemon run time configuration I disagree. Daemon startup should not be controlled by variables in /etc/default. Furthermore, I think the distinction being made here is artificial and serves no useful purpose. 12. Additionally, having the init.d script read the package's config files to discover whether the system configuration indicates that the daemon needs to be started, is a good and appropriate technique. I commend this approach to package maintainers. 13. I therefore conclude that the policy and the package are both correct. Unfortunately the submitter appears to have misunderstood both the actual policy text, and the reasoning behind it. Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]