On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 11:42:20AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:09:47 +0200 Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > > > Le 28/03/2018 à 23:34, Francesco Poli a écrit : > > > > > In other words, can someone develop a fork of libtablelayout-java (with > > > the namespace changed to a different one) which works as a drop-in > > > replacement for the original libtablelayout-java? > > > > If you change the namespace it can't be used as a drop-in replacement. > > > > But since the Debian libtablelayout-java package is already a fork of > > the upstream TableLayout project using a different namespace (as > > required by the license for derivative works), there is no need to > > change again the namespace for anyone modifying the libtablelayout-java > > package. > > So there's no way to create a modified version of libtablelayout-java > that can be used as a drop-in replacement for the original upstream > TableLayout. > > This seems to confirm that the namespace-change clause has functional > consequences, as I suspected...
Hello Francesco, I'm not sure I follow your logic in so far as I don't see any language either explicit or implicit in the DFSG [1] regarding the need for a derived work to be a drop-in replacement. It seems to me that you are assuming an additional clause to the effect that "the derived work must function in (all) contexts (including at build-time) exactly as the original work." While I think this is desirable goal, as it creates the absolute minimum of hassle for users of the derived work, I don't see it as a strict requirement. Note that I choose the word "function" because you refer to "functional consequences." In the specific case of libtablelayout-java, we're not even talking about a functional difference - i.e., the library performs the same function - there is only a difference in naming that affects the software at build-time. In my mind, a "functional consequence" would be something like "derived works cannot include method ${foo} that implements feature ${bar}." Finally, it is common practice for Java libraries have their namespaces changed in the course of day-to-day work within the Java ecosystem. For example, during the creation of shadow JARs, to allow multiple versions of a library to co-exist in the same project, etc... Doing so to respect the wishes of the upstream author seems perfectly natural to me. All that said, it would be simpler for everyone if the upstream author is willing to relicense the software. Good luck in your attempt to contact the author. (I was not able to find a suitable contact address in my search so far.) Cheers, tony [1] https://www.debian.org/social_contract.html#guidelines
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