On Thursday 17 September 2009 19:59:14 Samuel Thibault wrote: > Mike Frysinger, le Thu 17 Sep 2009 19:30:02 -0400, a écrit : > > > > login/pam are there to do authentication only, not screw with the > > > > terminal. > > > > > > Login already does screw with the terminal in setup_tty(), > > > > presumably enough to prevent echoing of the password, but that's about it > > (for obvious security reasons). > > Have you looked at the code before saying that? > > /* > * Add your favorite terminal modes here ... > */ > termio.c_lflag |= ISIG | ICANON | ECHO | ECHOE; > termio.c_iflag |= ICRNL; > > etc...
looks like a lot of stuff login shouldnt be doing, but historically has been so no one complained because "it worked". extending poor behavior because it's already there isnt really a good line of reasoning. > > i dont have a fedora box myself, but from talking to a friend, things > > "just work" in the default setup. or at least it defaults everything > > to unicode. > > Did he check whether stty -a properly shows iutf8? Things work very > fine even without it, one of the very few effects of iutf8 left cleared > is the bug I mentioned in my report: canonical mode's treatment of > backspace. People rarely notice it. i didnt ask him "hey does your keyboard work", i asked him what his settings were after he logged in. so of course i validated the stty output. i'm not suggesting everything is great and nothing needs to be changed. i'm saying that login/pam is not really part of the solution. -mike
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