On Thursday 17 September 2009 03:55:58 Samuel Thibault wrote: > Mike Frysinger, le Wed 16 Sep 2009 22:05:59 -0400, a écrit : > > this is why the `unicode_start` and `unicode_stop` programs exist -- for > > people to dynamically change the console input mode. > > Normal users shouldn't have to know they have to start it.
i was giving you background information on the problem and the current "standard". and how to change things dynamically. > > and why the keyboard/console font init scripts exist -- to set the > > defaults. and why the kernel now defaults all consoles to iutf8 on by > > default. > > Except that getty drops the flag. so here's a crazy idea: fix getty instead of throwing hacks around packages that have no business mucking with these things. login/pam are there to do authentication only, not screw with the terminal. > > perhaps you meant to file a bug about agetty not preserving the IUTF8 > > flag. > > As I said in my bug report, getty has always been clearing all tty flags > to restart the termios settings from scratch. We can try, but I fear > they won't accept it. why ? getty is wrong and should be fixed. i doubt the util-linux guys would reject a patch that preserved the UTF8 bit. i dont know why you think it's ok to throw fragile hacks into unrelated packages instead of fixing the real source of the problem. > Also, think about a serial console. Should the kernel also default tty > parameters with iutf8 there? It doesn't know how the terminal plugged > to it is configured. Getty run on it doesn't know which locale will be > used so can't set it. Only login has some chance to know which locale > is being configured on the system. that is the problem of the kernel serial layer and/or init scripts and/or shell login scripts. i dont know what the kernel defaults serial tty's to, just that they've recently changed the vt default (maybe it was a global default). if the defaults arent appropriate, then configure your system's kbd scripts appropriately. if you want to handle a system where unicode and non- unicode people will be operating, then you can tweak the login scripts to run the appropriate dynamic scripts (like unicode_start/unicode_stop), or request those packages be updated to do this automatically based on the locale. -mike
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