Robert Millan a écrit :
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:24:42AM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:22:02AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 05:28:38PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
>>>>>>> Please note, that regardless on whether a package is provided in 
>>>>>>> non-free or
>>>>>>> not, qemu-system-ppc requires a binary-only blob to operate, and hence 
>>>>>>> belongs
>>>>>>> in contrib.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't agree. You are speaking about *one* binary among the *dozens*
>>>>>> which are in this package. The others binaries are working correctly.
>>>>> Right.  The others don't have to be in contrib.  Only qemu-system-ppc 
>>>>> belongs
>>>>> there.
>>>>>
>>>> I still do not agree. Some modules of the kernel need a firmware for some
>>>> cards. AFAIK the kernel is still in main, and those modules are also
>>>> there.
>>> Which is also wrong [1].  Unless I see an exception in the Social Contract 
>>> that
>>> would allow this, which I haven't seen any.  Circular reasoning (e.g. I do 
>>> it
>>> because package XXX also does it) is NOT a justification.
>> I am not doing a circular reasoning, I am just showing you I am not
>> the only one interpreting the debian policy this way, that is the
>> package as a whole and not binary by binary.
>>
>> Anyway as it seems you like to strictly follow the debian documents,
>> let's quote the DFSG: "Our priorities are our users and free software".
> 
> What is your interpretation of "We will never make the system require
> the use of a non-free component" ?

We do not require the use of a non-free component. The qemu packages do
not depend on video.x (as it is not even packaged), and users are free
to not use qemu-system-ppc or only use it to emulate a PREP platform.

Please open your eyes, there are a lot of packages interpreting the
debian-policy like me, that is which have some functionalities disabled
if you don't have a non-free package installed. They are not in contrib,
and I am not able to find a bug report from you in the BTS asking for
them to be moved into non-free.

>> You would have better
>> employed your time (and mine) by providing a patch to make the video.x
>> sources buildable instead of trying to get qemu-system-ppc moved to 
>> contrib.
> 
> I agree.  But which sources?  I could find references saying the problem is
> video.x won't build from source, but I couldn't find the actual source (and I
> looked for it in its origin at mac-on-linux project).

You should have look better:
http://mac-on-linux.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/mac-on-linux/mac-drivers/video_driver/

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