On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:24:42AM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:22:02AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 05:28:38PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Please note, that regardless on whether a package is provided in 
> > > > > > non-free or
> > > > > > not, qemu-system-ppc requires a binary-only blob to operate, and 
> > > > > > hence belongs
> > > > > > in contrib.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't agree. You are speaking about *one* binary among the *dozens*
> > > > > which are in this package. The others binaries are working correctly.
> > > > 
> > > > Right.  The others don't have to be in contrib.  Only qemu-system-ppc 
> > > > belongs
> > > > there.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I still do not agree. Some modules of the kernel need a firmware for some
> > > cards. AFAIK the kernel is still in main, and those modules are also
> > > there.
> > 
> > Which is also wrong [1].  Unless I see an exception in the Social Contract 
> > that
> > would allow this, which I haven't seen any.  Circular reasoning (e.g. I do 
> > it
> > because package XXX also does it) is NOT a justification.
> 
> I am not doing a circular reasoning, I am just showing you I am not
> the only one interpreting the debian policy this way, that is the
> package as a whole and not binary by binary.
> 
> Anyway as it seems you like to strictly follow the debian documents,
> let's quote the DFSG: "Our priorities are our users and free software".

What is your interpretation of "We will never make the system require
the use of a non-free component" ?

> You would have better
> employed your time (and mine) by providing a patch to make the video.x
> sources buildable instead of trying to get qemu-system-ppc moved to 
> contrib.

I agree.  But which sources?  I could find references saying the problem is
video.x won't build from source, but I couldn't find the actual source (and I
looked for it in its origin at mac-on-linux project).

-- 
Robert Millan

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<DRM> What use is a phone call… if you are unable to speak?
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