On Fri, 14 Feb 2025, Guillem Jover wrote: >> >This bug does not count as RC just because Debian upload bureaucracy >> >hasn't been performed yet. >> >> If packagers cannot rely on Policy to give correct information, what >> *can* they rely on? > >This is not how Debian Policy has ever worked. By that measure >packages could not rely on multiarch or triggers to name a coupled >of examples. And Policy changes in general tend to be done after the >changes have been implemented and deployed in the archive.
That’s for things which Policy didn’t describe yet because they were new. But if Policy states a definite value, I *expect* the tooling to adhere to that value. >> Or, if you absolutely must cause more useless churn on package >> maintainers, at least forbid not setting R³. But don’t silently >> change the default to an incompatible value. > >The problem that triggered this report was only surfaced by the R³ >change, but it is not really directly affected by it. The real problem >is that the R³ change made it possible to skip calling the >«debian/rules build» targets, where the affected package was already Yes, I know. I’m sorry for having a life in which I needed a quick workaround for this dpkg RC bug in the package first, since that affects actual users, and that it takes time fully analysing what the packaging I only inherited in the first place does wrong, where, and how to best fix it, plus openjdk-8 takes a full day to build on my hardware. (Less with nocheck, sure.) >Policy buggy, but the breakage was not visible. If the R³ default >would get reverted, but the change to call >«fakeroot debian/rules binary-arch» kept, the openjdk-8 package would >still misbuild. I know. Doesn’t change the fact that dpkg’s change breaks packages. Would you *please* at least read and consider the alternative solutions I pointed out above? Thanks. bye, //mirabilos -- <igli> exceptions: a truly awful implementation of quite a nice idea. <igli> just about the worst way you could do something like that, afaic. <igli> it's like anti-design. <mirabilos> that too… may I quote you on that? <igli> sure, tho i doubt anyone will listen ;)
