Hello, On Thu 13 Feb 2025 at 11:57pm +01, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> severity 1095791 serious > thanks > > On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, Guillem Jover wrote: > >>> >From what I can tell from other mails, I believe the package in >>> question is openjdk-8 (unstable only); see bug #1095746. >> >>Ah, thanks for the context. In that case, going by that bug report, it >>looks like openjdk-8 was most probably already buggy, and this seems >>like another instance of what was reported in: > > Yes, it’s one of doko’s originally, and it’s mostly on life support > due to many active users. I was unaware of the change due to not > having been included in the MBF I only learnt about after reporting > the bug on the Fediverse; who knows what other packages are excluded? > > This also cost me *quite* some debugging, which could have been avoided. > > It’s still an RC bug in dpkg because Policy specifically says that > the default value isn’t “no”, though. > > Furthermore, this WILL break numerous third-party and downstream distro > packages. I consider this a bad change, not only deliberately backwards‐ > incompatible, but also SILENTLY changing. If you wanted to have gotten > rid of packages not declaring R³ and force package maintainers into even > more (usual culprit is lintian) useless churn, go make that an error, > but do NOT *ever* change the default value in a backwards-incompatible > way leading to silent failures. > > Plus, you have invented this whole dpkg-build-api thing. Go make that > change THERE instead. > > So, due to the Policy violation, raising severity again. If you want to > not have this treated as RC bug, ensure a changed Policy is released > first. But I ask you to move the default change to the dpkg-build-api > thingy instead. Policy has to go through binary-NEW in order to be released. So there isn't a quick fix here. This bug does not count as RC just because Debian upload bureaucracy hasn't been performed yet. There is a clear agreement that the default value has changed. I think the severity should be lowered. -- Sean Whitton
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