Hello,

On Thu 13 Feb 2025 at 11:57pm +01, Thorsten Glaser wrote:

> severity 1095791 serious
> thanks
>
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, Guillem Jover wrote:
>
>>> >From what I can tell from other mails, I believe the package in
>>> question is openjdk-8 (unstable only); see bug #1095746.
>>
>>Ah, thanks for the context. In that case, going by that bug report, it
>>looks like openjdk-8 was most probably already buggy, and this seems
>>like another instance of what was reported in:
>
> Yes, it’s one of doko’s originally, and it’s mostly on life support
> due to many active users. I was unaware of the change due to not
> having been included in the MBF I only learnt about after reporting
> the bug on the Fediverse; who knows what other packages are excluded?
>
> This also cost me *quite* some debugging, which could have been avoided.
>
> It’s still an RC bug in dpkg because Policy specifically says that
> the default value isn’t “no”, though.
>
> Furthermore, this WILL break numerous third-party and downstream distro
> packages. I consider this a bad change, not only deliberately backwards‐
> incompatible, but also SILENTLY changing. If you wanted to have gotten
> rid of packages not declaring R³ and force package maintainers into even
> more (usual culprit is lintian) useless churn, go make that an error,
> but do NOT *ever* change the default value in a backwards-incompatible
> way leading to silent failures.
>
> Plus, you have invented this whole dpkg-build-api thing. Go make that
> change THERE instead.
>
> So, due to the Policy violation, raising severity again. If you want to
> not have this treated as RC bug, ensure a changed Policy is released
> first. But I ask you to move the default change to the dpkg-build-api
> thingy instead.

Policy has to go through binary-NEW in order to be released.  So there
isn't a quick fix here.

This bug does not count as RC just because Debian upload bureaucracy
hasn't been performed yet.  There is a clear agreement that the default
value has changed.

I think the severity should be lowered.

-- 
Sean Whitton

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