>The problem is still that we need to choose between preserving >old Debian behaviour or being in line with how every other >distribution works. We can patch the defaults in debian, but do we >want to be different?
If we can't be different, but have to do everywhere the same as everyone else,... why do we need a separate distribution? I think the main question here is: Was something wrong with the old behaviour? And I'd say: No. Actually, having a sane path set when being root is what one expects,... or have there been any bigger complaints about this in the past? Sure one can just type su - ... but why? In the end it boils down to Debian users being "punished" in having adapt to something else for not good reason :-( Cheers, Chris.