On 05/06/14 23:15, Ian Jackson wrote:
For the record, the TC expects maintainers to continue to support the multiple available init systems in Debian. That includes merging reasonable contributions, and not reverting existing support without a compelling reason.
Considering: - The technical committee has decided that Jessie is going to have a default init system and that would be systemd, - Testing a package's support for an alternative init systems is a complicated manual process that requires non-trivial modifications, such as switching init systems and rebooting or maintaining VMs, - Upstart has a popcon install count of 99, - Debian maintainers are not required to care about derivatives, - Even for those of us that do care about Ubuntu, upstart's future in Ubuntu (and in general) is unclear given Mark Shuttleworth's blog post[1] that was posted immediately after tech-ctte's systemd decision, - Unlike, say, openrc or sysvinit, there are no Debian release architectures that would specifically benefit from upstart in the jessie timeframe. - Upstart's failure mode for a package's lack of an upstart job is to execute the corresponding SysV init script and hence is not a regression, ...I'm having a hard time convincing myself to treat potential upstart bugs as anything but very low priority wishlist bugs. I haven't gotten any such bug reports, so this is still theoretical, but I think I'd simply reject anything more complicated than simply adding a debian/foo.upstart file to the tree, including adding (and maintaining) hacks or modifying existing SysV init scripts. I certainly won't work on adding an upstart job to my packages myself. If the committee feels differently about this, I think it'd be useful to express this in a more clarified manner and possibly incorporate this into policy. For what it's worth, the current wording of "contin[uing] to support", "merging reasonable contributions" and "without a compelling reason" leaves a lot of room for interpretation and changes nothing for me compared to the previous resolution or the status quo before it. Regards, Faidon 1: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
