> On 25.11.2012 16:20, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> Package: systemd
>> Version: 44-5
>>
>> When I run systemctl status normally gives for a service, status
>> output _and_ last 10 lines of journal output.
>>
>> Unless run as root (eg via sudo) or the user is in the adm group, only
>> status is shown, and not the journal entries.
>>
>> The systemctl man page fails to advise the user of this requirement.
>>
>> The systemctl man page, or the README.Debian file or something like
>> that, should advise the user of this requirement to be in the adm
>> group to properly use systemctl/ systemd-journalctl.
>
> All this information is in the systemd-journalctl man page and the
> systemctl man page already has as SEE ALSO systemd-journalctl(1).
> I'm not convinced that duplicating that information in systemctl is
> helpful. The systemctl man page is already long enough as it is.

> Also note, that systemd-journalctl also warns you on stdout if you are
> running as non-root user and you're not in group adm.

Ahh, perhaps systemctl is calling journalctl with -q option?

That would be the "bug" then.

The problem is, systemctl is now masquerading as a front end to
journalctl. Since it's doing that, to assist newbies it ought to by
default give the same journalctl warning, and have the -q override
this (*).

I agree it's a minor bug, but it's a discoverability issue nonetheless.

(*) I'm pretty sure this is the case, but currently can't boot with
systemd again, so I've yet more to learn :)


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