On 16/02/2014 08:49, Niels Thykier wrote:
> I believe Robert concluded that it was possible to use an alternative to
> gdm3 (I forgot if it was lightdm or xdm).

Well, not exactly.

I think we're at a cross-roads. My understanding is that this used to be 
possible
until now, but the GNOME maintainers are already unhappy with this possibility
and in any case upstream will gradually move further in the opposite direction.

> Nevertheless, it would
> require that the GNOME maintainers are willing to adopt and support that
> change.

It used to be that any login manager was able to interact with any X session 
through
a very simple interface. These were the good old days, in which users could mix 
things
up and customize their environment to their will. But they're gone when it 
comes to
GDM and GNOME.

It seems to me that in GNOME land the UNIX mantra of "do one thing and do it 
well"
is being replaced by monolithic culture. I think this is a poor approach to 
system
design, but as I don't use GNOME myself and GNU/kFreeBSD users have plenty of
alternatives, I don't mean to argue with anyone about it (neither GNOME 
upstream,
nor the Debian GNOME maintainers).

-- 
Robert Millan


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