On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 07:04:03PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> > I really would like to understand what is the rationale behind this. > >> > Adding a > >> > .udeb into the archive, if it is not part of the image, and not loaded > >> > by d-i, > >> > can hardly have any influence on d-i. > >> > >> Not exactly. When we're building the cdimage we need to "blacklist" > >> the useless udebs to make CD images smaller and like. So there're some > >> consequencies with d-i, yes. > > > > This is a debian-cd issue though, and not a d-i one. And well, adding more > > .udebs to the blacklist seems trivial enough. Especialy for a single .udeb > > like in this case, but it is good to know. > > Well, it's trivial but the team need to be aware of those > modifications otherwise it can take a while to discover useless udebs > that are being include on the image. Currently there's no automatic CD > testing tool to try to figure those mistakes out as fast as we would > like to.
Bah, i can commit to debian-cd, and now that i know about this fact, if ever a .udeb i asked is out there, i will naturally add it to the blacklist. > >> I personally avoid to open bugs when I can contact the team directly > >> and leave the bug reporting resource for people that doesn't know the > >> team. > > > > Well, since communincation between me and the d-i team have not been so > > great > > lately, and i really thought that the d-i tags would be enough, i thought > > this > > the best way. > > That's the main reason why I replied the Frans message. I understood > why you reported the bug and on this case I think you did right. > > >> But I don't see anything wrong about opening a bug for check if > >> there's something that might be useful to have in. > > > > I can understand frans's point on this though, he fears that people will > > believe i represent the d-i team in this, and add the .udeb on my request. > > > > A bit like Andreas Jochens asking for the ppc64 ports, while his stuff is > > not > > even in debian and he has no relationship or even tried to work together, > > with > > the rest of the powerpc porter team. > > I understand both sides (your and Frans') and I also agree with him in > some part. > > Besides, I agree with Joey Hess point that there's no need to add this > udeb since we can add external binaries trivially on the built image. Yeah, but adding them to the image is not always the best solution, loading afterward may be a better way. Also, there may be another future for .udebs out there than just for d-i use, altough i know the d-i folk doesn't like this :) Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
