On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 07:26:52PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 12:12:59PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 12:53:52AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > No, Frans and Joey are not the only members of the d-i team that have a > > > hard > > > time working with you. > > > > Ah, so you are the unnamed third one. Anyway, i guess you also don't > > have any kind of exemplar communication style, just see at how you > > managed the whole Vancouver mess, > > Ahh, the "whole Vancouver mess". Which, like, ended almost a year ago. > We're going that way now, are we? Digging way back in history just to > find /some/ bit of mud to sling?
First, i was not the first one to mention this in this thread. Second, all this problem started back then, and as you may remember or not, the result was that i was very seriously insulted and almost quited all debian work back then because of that, and because of other things like joeyh, Kamion and vorlon all falling on me with no concertation in 6 hours interval about some really minor mistake i made after spending a whole week of full time work to get the powerpc 2.4 kernels ready for sarge. Since then, all innocent joy i had in working on debian for almost 7 years died, and i never was able to think about debian without some serious biterness, and each time i tried supering that, i found Frans on my path, being condescending and borderline insulting, believing he knez more about kernel packaging than me, and denying any kind of knowledge and competence. Never have any of those involved back then showed the less regret about their actions, or at least never told me so. They all felt they where justified, and indeed so justified that some of them repeated the same offense every couple of months since then. So, this is really an issue which started with the Vancouver mess, altough it was a colateral dammage. Now, you cannot say that Steve's presentation of the vancouver discussion, which was done in secret, without any kind of consultation to those involved, and all you know, so you cannot say that Steve was a masterful communicator back then, and frankly complaining about my communication problems is not something that Steve should do. > Wonderful. Feels like primary school all over again. Indeed, like bullies targeting a solitair child, and making him their scapegoats for over a year. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
