Wouter Verhelst <wou...@debian.org> (2017-04-15):
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 01:18:52PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> > As you describe, the default network is an extra layer of NAT.  It
> > works, but not everybody wants that.
> 
> So those who don't want it can fix their bloody configuration.

ACK.

> Are you honestly suggesting that we should create unnecessary fluff for
> all our users just because NAT doesn't work for a small minority of our
> users?

Indeed, NACK!

> It's always possible to create a bridge manually, there's no need to do
> that from the installer; and NAT works out of the box (virt-manager will
> even suggest you enable the default network if you try to use it and it
> hasn't been enabled yet).

Also, NAT is only one of the possible modes with libvirt. You can use
an isolated network, forwarding to a physical network (using NAT or
routed mode)… Nothing too hard to configure for something feeling so
strongly about NAT…


KiBi.

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